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Web Extra: Grothman says GOP does disagree with Trump

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Web Extra: Grothman says GOP does disagree with Trump

Web Extra: Grothman says GOP does disagree with Trump

In his full UPFRONT interview, Rep.

Glenn Grothman says Republicans have disagreed with President Trump many times.

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Web Extra: Grothman says GOP does disagree with Trump

ADRIENNE: WE WANT TO START WITHTHE IMPEACHMENT INQUIRY.ORIGINALLY AT THE BEGINNING OFTHE PROCESS, YOU SAID YOUTHOUGHT IT WAS A DISTRACTIONFROM DEMOCRATS.HAVE YOU CHANGED YOUR MIND?CONGRESSMAN GROTHMAN: WE WILLSEE WHAT MORE COMES OUT.WE WILL GET BRIEFED NEXT WEEK,AND OF COURSE THERE IS TODAY, ASWE ARE TAPING THIS INTERVIEW,INTERVIEWS GOING ON WITH THEFORMER AMBASSADOR, BUT YOU HAVETO REMEMBER, PEOPLE HAVE WANTEDTO IMPEACH PRESIDENT TRUMP SINCETHE DAY HE TOOK OFFICE.THERE ARE REASONS WHY HE IS MOOF A LIGHTNING ROD OR HATED THANPREDECESSORS.WE HAVE NOT HAD A PRESIDENTBEFORE WHO REALLY WANTS TO REDOTHE TRADE DEALS.WE HAVE NOT HAD A PRESIDENBEFORE WHO CARES ABOUT PEOPLECOMING IN ACROSS THE BORDER.A LOT OF PEOPLE WANT TO GO BACKTO THE DAYS OF ANYBODY CAN COMEHERE.PEOPLE WANT TO GO BACK TO THEDAYS OF WE DON’T CARE HOW BIG ATRADE IMBALANCE WE HAVE.AS LONG AS HE IS DIFFERENT THANTHE SWAMP, A LOT OF PEOPLE WILLTRY TO IMPEACH HIM.IF HE DID SOMETHING WRONG, WWILL SEE IF THAT COMES OUTTODAY.ADRIENNE: IS THERE DOUBT IN YOURMIND HE MIGHT HAVE DONESOMETHING WRONG?CONGRESSMAN GROTHMAN: I DON’TTHINK HE DID SOMETHINGIMPEACHABLE, BUT WE WILL SEE.ADRIENNE: WHAT DO YOU EXPECT TLEARN FROM THE BRIEFING?I KNOW YOU DON’T KNOW THE FACTSYET.WHAT COULD YOU LEARN IN THEBRIEFING?CONGRESSMAN GROTHMAN: WE HAD THETRANSCRIPT OF THE PHONE CALLWITH THE UKRAINE, AND WE DID NOTSEE ANYTHING THERE THAT WASIMPEACHABLE.I THINK THE DEMOCRATS WEREDISAPPOINTED WITH HOW LITTLETHAT WAS THERE.ADRIENNE: THEY SAID IT WAS NOTVERBATIM.CONGRESSMAN GROTHMAN: RIGHT.THERE WAS NOTHING THERE THATGOES TO IMPEACHMENT.THERE ARE SO MANY THINGS WE WANTTO DO IN WASHINGTON.THE THING THAT FRUSTRATES ME ISTHE DEGREE TO WHICH THOSE AREBEING PUSHED ON THE BACK BURNER.ADRIENNE: DO YOU THINK ITAPPROPRIATE FOR THE PRESIDENT TOASK A FOREIGN COUNTRY TOINVESTIGATE A POLITICAL RIVAL?CONGRESSMAN GROTHMAN: I THINK ITWAS FRUSTRATING FOR PRESIDENTTRUMP BECAUSE THE PRESS SHOULDHAVE DRIVEN SOME SORT OFINVESTIGATION ON THAT FOUR YEARSAGO.ADRIENNE: DO YOU THINK IT WOULDBE APPROPRIATE FOR A PRESIDENTTO DO THAT?CONGRESSMAN GROTHMAN: IT DEPENDSON THE CONTEXT AND WHAT IS GOINGON.PRESIDENT TRUMP IS A UNIQUEPRESIDENT.THERE IS SOMETHING IN HIS BRAINAND IT COMES OUT HIS MOUTH,RIGHT?I THINK IT WAS HIGHLY WRONG, IFIT IS WHAT APPEARS LIKE WHATHAPPENED HERE, THAT VICEPRESIDENT BIDEN’S SON WAS MAKINGA LOT OF MONEY AND PERHAPS APROSECUTOR WAS SWITCHED AROUNDIN THE UKRAINE AT VICE PRESIDENTBIDEN’S REQUEST.THERE IS SOMETHING WHERE U.S.POLICY WE COULD SAY WAS CHANGEDOR MONEY WAS MADE USING FAMILYCONNECTIONS.I HAVE NOT SEEN ANYTHING THATBAD YET FROM PRESIDENT TRUMP.ADRIENNE: SO YOU SAY IT DEPENDSUPON WHO THE PRESIDENT IS AT THETIME?CONGRESSMAN GROTHMAN: I’M NOTSAYING IT IS WHO THE PRESIDENTIS AT THE TIME, BUT IT APPEARSTHERE IS A QUICK QUOTE PRO ANDWE HAVE NOT SEEN THAT YET.ADRIENNE: LET’S SAY THPRESIDENT WAS A DEMOCRAT.THE FACTS WERE THE SAME, THEREWHISTLEBLOWER, WOULD YOU WANT TOGO AHEAD WITH AN IMPEACHMENTINQUIRY?CONGRESSMAN GROTHMAN: FIRST OFALL, LET’S REMEMBER, IF THINGSWERE SWITCHED AROUND, IF MIKEPPENCE’ SON WERE MAKING MONEY INA SITUATION LIKE THAT, I THINKTHERE IS NO QUESTION, BUT THEMEDIA WOULD HAVE A FIELD DAY.THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN FLESHED OUTYEARS AGO.ADRIENNE: WHAT WOULD YOU BEDOING?CONGRESSMAN GROTHMAN: WE WOULDBE DEMANDING -- YOU MEAN IF ITWAS VICE PRESIDENT PENCE, IF HEHAD A SON OVER THERE AND ADEMOCRAT WAS ASKING TO BEINVESTIGATED?ABSOLUTELY.IF VICE PRESIDENT PENCE HAD ASON WHO WAS MAKING MONEY LIKETHAT OFF OF VICE PRESIDENTPENCE’S CONNECTIONS, I THINK SO.ADRIENNE: LET ME RE-WORD MYQUESTION, SOME PEOPLE ARE SAYINGREPUBLICANS ARE SUPPORTING THEPRESIDENT BECAUSE HE ISREPUBLICAN.IF THIS WAS A DEMOCRAT, THEYWOULD SAY IMPEACH HIM ALL THEWAY.IS THAT THE CASE?CONGRESSMAN GROTHMAN: NO, IDON’T THINK SO.IMPEACHMENT IS A DRASTIC THING.I THINK WHEN THE PRESS SAYS ALLTHE REPUBLICANS ARE BEHINDPRESIDENT TRUMP OR THEY AREAFRAID TO DISAGREE WITHPRESIDENT TRUMP, THAT IS NOTTRUE AT ALL.IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT IS GOING ONWITH REGARD TO THE KURDS INTURKEY, IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT WENTON BEFORE I LEFT WHEN THE BUDGETDEAL CAME DOWN AND PRESIDENTTRUMP WANTED SO DESPERATELY TOHAVE REPUBLICANS SUPPORT HIM ANDTHE VAST MAJORITY DID NOT, AGAINAND AGAIN THE REPUBLICANS ARENOT AFRAID TO DISAGREE WITHPRESIDENT TRUMP.WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO SOMETHINGSO DRASTIC AS IMPEACHMENT,PARTICULARLY WHEN I THINK IT ISBEING PUSHED BY PEOPLE WHOFUNDAMENTALLY DISAGREE WITHPRESIDENT TRUMP ON THE BORDERAND GETTING OUT THERE ON TRADE,I THINK YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT ITSKEPTICALLY.ADRIENNE: ACCORDING TO A NEW FOXNEWS POLL, MORE THAN HALF OFU.S. VOTERS WANT PRESIDENT TRUMPIMPEACH.THAT IS 51%.WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THAT?CONGRESSMAN GROTHMAN: I HAVE TOLOOK AT THE QUESTION.I AM TOLD THAT THAT POLL, IF YOULOOK AT THE QUESTION, YOU CANNOTHANG YOUR HEAD ON 51%.IT IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS WERETOO MUCH OF WHAT WE DO TODAY ISCOLD, BUT THE STORY ON THEIMPEACHMENT AND WHAT PRESIDENTTRUMP MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE DONEIS CHANGING EVERY DAY AND WEEK,SO I DON’T GET EXCITED ABOUTTHAT POLL, PARTICULARLY BECAUSEI THINK IT DEPENDS WHO YOU ASKTHE QUESTIONS OF AND HOW THEYARE WORDED.ADRIENNE: THE WHITE HOUSE SAYSIT WILL NOT COOPERATE WITH THISIS THAT A GOOD IDEA?CONGRESSMAN GROTHMAN: I THINKTHEY WILL COOPERATE AS SOON ASWE TAKE A BULLET IN THE HOUSE.I WOULD NOT BE SURPRISED IF WETAKE THAT.ADRIENNE: WHAT DO YOU THINK OFTHAT STRATEGY OF SAYING WE WILLNOT COOPERATE?CONGRESSMAN GROTHMAN: I THINKTHE ADMINISTRATION, TO A DEGREE,IS CONCERNED.THEY DON’T WANT TO HAVE ALL OFTHEIR INNERWORKINGS IMMEDIATELYEXPOSED TO THE PUBLIC.FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN PEOPLE WANTEDTRANSCRIPTS, WHICH WEREEVENTUALLY LED TO OUT THERE,TRANSCRIPTS DEALING WITH FOREIGNLEADERS.IF A FOREIGN LEADER IS GOING TOGO BACK AND FORTH WITH THE U.S.PRESIDENT, I THINK IT IS A VALIDCONCERN, IS THAT GOING TO WINDUP ON THE FRONT PAGE OF THEAMERICAN NEWSPAPERS?ADRIENNE: LET’S TALK ABOUTSYRIA.I KNOW REPUBLICANS ARE COMINOUT AGAINST THE PRESIDENT ARE-- PRESIDENT FOR PULLING TROOPSOUT OF NORTHERN SYRIA.WHERE DO YOU STAND WITH THATDECISION?CONGRESSMAN GROTHMAN: I AM GOINGTO GET BRIEFED, I ASSUME, BYPOMPEO NEXT WEEK WHEN I GO BACKTO WASHINGTON.ON THE SURFACE, I DO NOT LIKETHE DECISION.I WISH THAT PEOPLE HAD NOT BEENSO HOSTILE TO THE IDEA OFPRESIDENT TRUMP WORKING WITHRUSSIA ON THINGSI THINK THE KEY TO PROTECTINGTHE KURDS WENT THROUGH RUSSIA,PARTICULARLY AFTER ASSAD DID SOWELL IN THAT SYRIAN CIVIL WAAND I THINK IT WAS A MISTAKE FORSO MANY AMERICAN POLITICIANS TOTRY TO GET IN THE WAYESTABLISHING A BETTERRELATIONSHIP WITH RUSSIA TO NEEDPROTECTION OF THE WAY THIS EVENTWAS AN GOES THROUGH THERELATIONSHIP WITH RUSSIA TO ACERTAIN EXTENT.WE DO HAVE A MORAL OBLIGATION TOTHE KURDS.THEY ARE OUR ALLIES.ADRIENNE: WAS IT WRONG TO PULLTHOSE TROOPS WITH WHAT YOU KNOWNOW?CONGRESSMAN GROTHMAN: I DON’TWANT TO GIVE YOU A HARD ANSWERBECAUSE I ASSUME I WILL GETPRIVATE BRIEFINGS THIS WEEK, ANDMAYBE POMPEO WILL SAY THINGS TOJUSTIFY THE DECISION.I DID NOT LIKE THE DECISION WHENI HEARD IT.ADRIENNE: ARE YOU CONCERNED THISCOULD CAUSE A WIDER CONFLICTBECAUSE THE PENTAGON SAID FRIDAYTHEY WOULD SEND U.S. TROOPS TOSAUDI ARABIA TO TRY TO HELP.CONGRESSMAN GROTHMAN: WELL, ITHINK THEY ARE SENDING THEMESSAGE WE ARE NOT PULLING OUTOF THE MIDDLE EAST ALTOGETHER,WHICH IS A GOOD ONE TO SEND.ADRIENNE: WHAT DO YOU THINK THEMESSAGES TO OUR ALLIES AND OTHERCOUNTRIES?CONGRESSMAN GROTHMAN: THEY ASKWHY?I DID NOT LIKE THE IDEA OFPULLING THE TROOPS OUT OF SYRIA.NOT ONLY ARE YOU PERHAPS LEAVINGTHE KURDS HANGING, AND WHO KNOWSWHAT WILL HAPPEN OF THEM, BUT ITHINK FOR OTHER COUNTRIES AROUNDTHE WORLD, WE ALREADY HAE APROBLEM.WHEN BARACK OBAMA PULLED OUT OFIRAQ, THAT WAS A PROBLEM.YOU LEFT YOUR ALLIES HANGING.LOOK WHAT HAPPENED UNDER BARACKOBAMA IN EGYPT AS ANOTHEREXAMPLE.WE LEFT OUR ALLIES OUT TO DRY.ALL THE WAY GOING BACK TOVIETNAM, EXAMPLES OF LEAVINGYOUR ALLIES OUT TO DRY.THAT IS ONE OF THE REASONS WHYIT CONCERNS ME IF WE LEAVE SYRIAWITHOUT, IN SOME WAY, PROTECTINGTHE KURDS AND I THINK THAT INSOME WAY PROBABLY COULD GOTHROUGH RUSSIA.ADRIENNE: I DO WANT TO TALKABOUT THE USMCA.WHAT ARE THE CHANCES OF GETTINGTHAT PASSED?CONGRESSMAN GROTHMAN: IT HASGONE BACK AND FORTH EVERY TWOWEEKS.NANCY PELOSI SAYS THEY WILL VOTEON IT IN THE NEXT TWO MONTHS.IT IS HARD FOR HER TO BACK OFFON THAT COMMITMENT.I KNOW THERE IS A STRONG AILMENTIN THE DEMOCRAT PARTY THAT THEYDON’T WANT IT.I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE VOTED ONIT FIVE MONTHS AGO.IT IS GOOD FOR PARTICULARLY THEWISCONSIN FARMER AND ANYMANUFACTURING.IT IS AN IMPROVEMENT OVER WHAT ITHOUGHT WAS O THAT DEAL CUTBY PRESIDENT CLINTON.PRESIDENT BUSH, PRESIDENT OBAMA,THEY DID NOT TRY TO UPGRADETHIS, SO I LOOK FORWARD TOVOTING.ADRIENNE: DO YOU THINK IT WILLGO THROUGH?CONGRESSMAN GROTHMAN: I’MGUESSING YES BECAUSE NANCYPELOSI HAS PUT HERSELF IN ACORNER.MY ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION SEEMSTO CHANGE EVERY TWO WEEKSDEPENDING ON THE GOSSIP.RIGHT NOW, MY GUESS IS




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